Missional Conversation (Part 1)
Here’s an interesting video of a conversation between Ed Stetzer and Dave Fitch — two guys who both love Jesus and both love the church. It’s a little long-ish, but I think it’s very worthwhile. They talk about some of the stuff we’ve been talking about around here lately.
A Missional Conversation (Part 1)
Here are some of my thoughts (in no particular order):
I love Ed’s perspective that missional isn’t about our own preferences but about getting on board God’s mission.
I love Dave’s perspective on incarnational evangelism as opposed to what we’ve traditionally known as evangelism. I’m writing a lot about that in the next book.
I also love how Ed nails down the fact that movements like attractional and missional often end up spending too much time and energy recruiting other Christians to their model.
I also really like how they both challenge the assumption first stated by Frost & Hirsch but echoed in lots of places (including on this blog) that ecclesiology simply flows out of missiology which flows out of Christology. There’s a lot in that idea I like, but I have some reservations — maybe some of the same reservations Ed and Dave have.
Your thoughts?
November 24th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
I like Fitch “God is a MISSIONARY God.”
However not having a MDIV. this video has big words that go over my simple mind. I grew up in the Country. Gotta keep it simple.
I need to be told by a Pastor, honor your wife. Be nice and make time for your kids. Don’t look at porn. Don’t lie to impress others. Respect others and live with integrity.
When I was in graduate School I was next door to a seminary where boys wanting to be men, used big words trying to impress those of us not “of the cloth” (clergy). As I grew older I would come to find out some of those boys had deeper darker sins than I.
November 24th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
It’s difficult and expensive for me to download videos with our server these days in Tanzania. But I’m looking forward to reading in on you guys’ conversations.
December 7th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
It is a good discussion.
I agree that the danger is we spend more time defining the term instead of simply doing what God has called us to do.
I give an amen to the either way we have to get out of the “it is all about me” Christianity that seems prevalent today.